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Author:  Graham Catley [ Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  juv gull

some photos of a juvenile gull at Elsham July 7th in the discussion album -- note the date --feel free to comment

Author:  Andrew Chick [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: juv gull

Faint window, white rump/tail and neat tail-band suggests juv Yellow-legged Gull?

Author:  Edmund Mackrill [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: juv gull

I agree Andy - although I've never seen juv Caspo - this bird seems to show all the plumage features of a YLHG. Tertial pattern right, longish thin legs, is there some early yellow there? darkish underwing, breasty rather than vent heavy, very white rump/tail with very clear cut tail band, typical YLHG upper wing pattern.
What was your ID Graham having watched the bird in action in the field?

Author:  Nige Lound [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: juv gull

Add to Andrew's comments, the dark eye surround, dark tertials, darker outer greater coverts and lengthy tibia, I would go for Yellow legged as well.

Regards

Nige

Author:  Graham Catley [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: juv gull

Thanks for replies -- hopefully this can produce some interesting discussion
as its July 6th and any juvenile is going to be pretty well in its early juvenile plumage with virtually no wear I just wondered how people have discounted juvenile Caspian Gull at this stage? Just an interesting starter

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