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RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
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Author:  John Badley [ Fri May 18, 2012 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Hi,

Another good day at Frampton today;

Temminck's stint - 2 on North Scrape from East Hide
Black-winged stilt - 1
Black-necked grebe - 1
Little gull - 9 1st summers
Garganey - 4 drakes
Wood sandpiper - 1
Common sandpiper - 1
Little stint - 1
Curlew sandpiper - 25 reported! I could only manage about 10, but the waders were very mobile and I could see about half the birds at any one time.
Sanderling - 1
Turnstone 4
Black-tailed godwit - 40
Greenshank - 1
Bar-tailed godwit - 14
Ringed plover - 150
Dunlin - 100
Ruff - 8
Hobby - 1
Short-eared owl - 1
Swift - 250
Swallow - 100
Turtle dove - 1

Cheers,

John
Author:  Anthony Bentley [ Fri May 18, 2012 7:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Standard Day at Frampton. Best bird Reserve in Lincolnshire. I think we can all agree. RSPB Flagship reserve when the reedbed is fully grown.
What a place, Katherine your so lucky !
Author:  Chris Grimshaw [ Fri May 18, 2012 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Just one fault with this reserve and it is a certainly major concern - it is just about forty miles to far from my house
Author:  Katherine Birkett [ Fri May 18, 2012 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Chris Grimshaw wrote:
Just one fault with this reserve and it is a certainly major concern - it is just about forty miles to far from my house

Hmm - I'll lobby Parliament to install a Maglev line between your house and Frampton Marsh! :mrgreen:
Author:  Freddy Johnson [ Sat May 19, 2012 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Chris, what's all this moaning about a 40m trip to get to Frampton ?? It's not as if you go there every day of the week; some people commute that distance every day just to get to work ( and have to pay the petrol costs). Having cut my teeth in the 70s/80s/90s on the regular Folkestone-Norfolk run (400m+ return), I personally find the Frampton journey no hassle at all.

Once I leave BBH behind on the A15 on the c.40m single journey to Frampton, exceptionally there's not a single set of traffic lights to slow one down on the usual 45 minute journey all the way to the Reserve Carpark. Although not MAG-netically LEV-itated, I always find the journey seems to go much quicker and smoother than the similar 40m run to Far Ings.....and when one arrives at Frampton we all seem to agree that the trip was worthwhile....eg. in my 4 trips in the last 3 weeks, BW Stilt on each occasion (2 on 5th May) plus LOTS of other goodies, etc. In my case, as they say, "it makes an old man very happy" ....and as for petrol costs, well, I've got to spend part of the Kids' Inheritance somehow; and the overall costs/ my carbon footprint will be a fraction of a longhaul overseas trip eg. to the Caribbean. :D :)

Freddy
Author:  John Clarkson [ Sat May 19, 2012 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Freddy

Not sure that's true. A return flight to the Windies might produce something like 1.6 tonnes carbon per passenger whereas 12,000 miles in your average car produces 3.9 tonnes. That is according to this online calculator

http://www.gco2.ie/calculators.aspx

John
Author:  Chris Atkin [ Sat May 19, 2012 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
I just hope the realignment scheme at Donna Nook will finally give the north of the county an area that can produce such mpressive lists like those enjoyed at reserves in the south.

Chris
Author:  Freddy Johnson [ Sat May 19, 2012 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
John Clarkson wrote :

" Freddy....not sure that's true. A return flight to the Windies might produce something like 1.6 tonnes carbon per passenger whereas 12,000 miles in your average car produces 3.9 tonnes........"

John,...... thanks for your post but I am not sure of the relevance to the point I was making (and I wasn't even thinking annual figures) :
ie. my 4 return trips to Frampton (= 320 miles/c. 0.1 tonne) will be a fraction of the carbon footprint of our passenger's return flight to the Caribbean (= 1.6 tonnes)
If 12,000 miles in my (average) car produce 3.9 tonnes
then 1000 miles produce 0.325 tonne
then 320 miles produce c. 0.1 tonne
as opposed to the passenger's 1.6 tonnes for his return trip to the Caribbean.......QED.
Surely, 0.1 is a mere fraction of 1.6.

Further, even if we are talking annual figures, then the quoted airline passenger isn't going to sit in a cupboard for the other 50 weeks of the year. He's also going to be a car driver doing, say, the annual average of 12,000 miles. He may even do another overseas trip (I'm staycation UK this year) to add to his already growing carbon footprint size as opposed to mine. :D :)

Freddy
Author:  Andrew Vaughan [ Sat May 19, 2012 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Back to birding at Frampton, a similar list to that posted by John holds true for Saturday 19th. By 3pm no reports of the Black Winged Stilt. Personal highlights for day were:-

Temminck's Stint
Little Stint
Little Gull
Curlew sand
Dunlin
Ringed Plover
Little Ringed Plover
Avocet
Little Egret
Black Tailed Godwit
Brent Geese, sorry not experienced enough to tell difference between ordinary and dark headed.
Swifts
Swallows
House Martin.

Couldn't find the reported Wood Sand.

Also, surprised didn't see any Sand Martin.

Like Chris Grimshaw I wish this was closer to Lincoln to just pop in as and when I had a few minutes spare.

Andrew
Author:  Chris Grimshaw [ Sat May 19, 2012 7:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 18/05/12
Nice list Andrew
Freddie I take your point but wasn't petrol 2d a gallon when you did all your commuting
I have been to Frampton nine times already this year and enjoyed every visit 800 0r so miles
3 times to Gib and I feel a visit to both coming up in the next few days. 320 miles
On Tuesday Andrew Vaughan will be travelling to Padley Gorge (120 miles) and doing a long walk there. Just hope that is more productive than the trip we did to South Wales (around 500 miles) searching for the common yellowthroat to no avail
A trip to Padstow (700 miles) for family business burned off a few more gallons but produced some enjoyable moments birding. I am not to sure how many gallons CO2 the Boeing 767 produced on its way to Mexico and back (about 8800 miles) - but while I was there the birding was all done by Shank's Pony but each bird I saw cost about £30
The point is not the money of course but the hours travelling could be better spent birding
Might see you at Frampton shortly - the best reserve in England at present
regards
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