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Author:  Paul French [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  RSPB Frampton Marsh 13/11 - Black Brant

Todays highlights so far:

Black Brant - ad (prob female) on saltmarsh with small brent flock, showing well from main steps onto seabank at 1430 (Thanks to Alex Parker for the call!)

Snow Bunting - 1 with Linnet flock on scrapes
Hen Harrier - the 2nd cal yr male seen regularly all day
Barn Owl - 3 birds showing well this evening over the reedbed
Green Sandpiper - 1
Corn Bunting - 4
Stonechat - 1+
Plus decent numbers of ducks starting to arrrive on the scrapes and reedbed now that water levels are rising.

PF.

Author:  Katherine Birkett [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 13/11 - Black Brant

Does a Black Brant count as a lifer in its own right, separate from a Brent Goose?

Author:  Nick Clayton [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 13/11 - Black Brant

No Katherine it isn't a separate species from Brent Goose it is different race.

Author:  Graham Catley [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 13/11 - Black Brant

Nick Clayton wrote:
No Katherine it isn't a separate species from Brent Goose it is different race.


depends which authority you follow -- Birding World, UK 400 club Dutch Birding etc all regard it as a good species but BOURC treat it as a race -- you takes your money

Author:  Nick Clayton [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 13/11 - Black Brant

I take your point Graham and knowing how these things change (splitting/lumping) on a regular basis I double checked with the BOU official list before replying.

This poses the question which list should we use, that of the BOU or those decided by magazine editors and which authority decides the species that reside on the UK 400 list? I couldn't locate the list used by LBC for Lincolnshire species but I assume it follows that of the BOU.

Author:  Freddy Johnson [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RSPB Frampton Marsh 13/11 - Black Brant

Graham Catley wrote :

depends which authority you follow -- Birding World, UK 400 club Dutch Birding etc all regard it as a good species but BOURC treat it as a race -- you takes your money

'you takes your money'
must be

Barton-upon -Humber or Barton-upon-Humber x
Nominate English species
is

'you pays your money' as in 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'.

PM - Punch Magazine 1846
CID - Cambridge Idioms Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006.

Regards

Freddy

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