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Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/11
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Author:  John Badley [ Tue May 24, 2011 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/11
Hi,

A stunning female Red-necked Phalarope is on South Scrape (from 360 hide or the road) from lunchtime today (therefore not the one from 10 days ago).

John
Author:  Phil Hyde [ Thu May 26, 2011 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
Female RN Phal still showing well tonight from 360 hide. Also a male Ruddy Duck from Reedbed (although I didn't notice it consorting with any White-headed ducks). :mrgreen:

Phil
Author:  John Badley [ Thu May 26, 2011 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
The Ruddy Duck is a first (and quite possibly last) for Frampton, whereas the phalarope is the fifth, all of which have been since 2009.
Author:  Stephen Andrew [ Thu May 26, 2011 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
I really wish that people would not report on open forums sightings of Ruddy ducks. They are still being shot and who knows where the shooters get their information from.
Author:  John Badley [ Fri May 27, 2011 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
They get their information from people like me Stephen, rather than open forums such as this.

The phalarope was still present this morning from 360 Hide. Also Quail calling in the fields to the south of the reserve at 05:50.

John
Author:  Stephen Andrew [ Fri May 27, 2011 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
John Badley wrote:
They get their information from people like me Stephen, rather than open forums such as this.

The phalarope was still present this morning from 360 Hide. Also Quail calling in the fields to the south of the reserve at 05:50.

John

Shame on you then John for facilitating, what is for me, such an abhorent scheme. I am sure you feel there are strong and justifiable reasons for their extermination in Britain but I do not share your views. You have mistake my intention in responding to this thread. I was appealing to any other club member who reads these posts to keep Ruddy duck sightings to themselves, as I do.
Author:  Russell Hayes [ Fri May 27, 2011 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
Red-necked Phalarope still present but distant.
Also
Male & Female Garganey
Male Ruddy Duck
Little Stint
Kingfisher
Several Dunlin, Redshank, Ringed Plovers & Little-ringed Plovers
Author:  Chris Grimshaw [ Fri May 27, 2011 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
Only 100 left in the UK they were saying in reception at Frampton this afternoon which is a shame if it is true especially when you remember until recently you would see a flock around that number at places like Rutland Water

The phalarope was nice though. My first in summer plumage even though it was distant and the view at midday was further obscured by heat haze
Author:  Stephen Andrew [ Fri May 27, 2011 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
Chris Grimshaw wrote:
Only 100 left in the UK they were saying in reception at Frampton this afternoon which is a shame if it is true especially when you remember until recently you would see a flock around that number at places like Rutland Water

The phalarope was nice though. My first in summer plumage even though it was distant and the view at midday was further obscured by heat haze


I agree Chris, particularly with the "if it is true part". There is a large reservoir in the Midlands where for two days a team of shooters from Scotland (sic), this winter were doing their worse. The expense of the thing does not bear thinking about. They shot five ducks in that time. The next week there were eleven at the same place!
Author:  Geoff Williams [ Fri May 27, 2011 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
I may do my first ever visit to Frampton soon as Ruddy Duck is one of the rarest birds in Britain, I hope they don't kill the bird before I get there.
I'm hoping that once the cull is over,someone will do a re-introduction, it should be much cheaper than the cost of the cull.
Author:  Chris Grimshaw [ Fri May 27, 2011 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
You'll enjoy Frampton Geoff
Author:  Stuart Britton [ Fri May 27, 2011 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
In case you don't know, Stephen, John Badley is the RSPB Reserve Manager at Frampton Marsh and I don't think he should be ashamed of his comment. The cull of this introduced species was approved in 2003 by the then Minister for the Environment (Elliott Morley!!!) to prevent the extinction of the White-headed duck and fully supported by the RSPB. By March this year the population was down to an estimated 120. The "shooters" cull under licence and are from the Food and Environment Research Agency. My personal opinion is irrelevant and I respect the views of others whether I agree with them or not.
Author:  Stephen Andrew [ Sat May 28, 2011 7:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
Geoff Williams wrote:
I may do my first ever visit to Frampton soon as Ruddy Duck is one of the rarest birds in Britain, I hope they don't kill the bird before I get there.
I'm hoping that once the cull is over,someone will do a re-introduction, it should be much cheaper than the cost of the cull.


What an excellent idea Geoff, I do believe that this might well happen! And before any one else decides to sermonise on my opinions I stated that although I believe the slaughter of these innocent birds is morally wrong there are reasons for the actions that are understandable but the idea that because governments have decided makes it right is laughable.
Author:  Stuart Britton [ Sat May 28, 2011 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
"Because Governments have decided makes it right is laughable." It's democracy.
Author:  Stephen Andrew [ Sat May 28, 2011 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Red-necked Phalarope - RSPB Frampton Marsh 24/05/
Stuart Britton wrote:
"Because Governments have decided makes it right is laughable." It's democracy.

Did I miss the Referundum on whether its right to slaughter hundreds of birds in the name of a European directive on bio-diversity? Fifa have elections you know does that make it democratic!
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