Wind Turbine at RSPB Lodge

Anthony Bentley · **Posted:** Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:14 pm

http://www.rspb.org.uk/community/places ... lodge.aspx

I can't actually believe this. There was a recent survey on Moorland in Scotland where A wind farm was placed and it showed numbers of birds declined and some never managed to get back to the numbers there were before the wind turbines. I cannot believe the RSPB are supporting Wind turbines. They want to be energy efficent well whats the point in only having one? If you want to be energy efficent you would have more than one. Pointless in my opinion and may discourage important breeding species around the lodge like Nightjar and Woodlark. I thought my membership was going to have a positive effect on our birds but this is the opposite. I look forward to Dean's Comments on this subject.

James Smith · **Posted:** Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:22 am

Anthony, the RSPB's scientists conclusions are that in general Wimd Turbines have no significant effect on bird life, hence the decision to go ahead with this project. They have also shown no objection to the construction of a couple of turbines close to Bempton reserve and no doubt other reserves.

You, and no doubt Dean, will counter that other scientists have come up with the opposite conclusions worldwide but as i am sure you are aware, you can get a scientist to say what you want depending on your point of view on a particular issue.

Dean Eades · **Posted:** Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:43 pm

Wind Turbines have no significant effect on bird life :?:

You obviously not see these video's

http://www.moroccanbirds.com/frontpage- ... -the-video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RcTjdY1aN4

Anthony Bentley · **Posted:** Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:04 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17694256

This link shows a survey undertook in the highlands. This shows both sides of the story. But if they were to build at the lodge affected species would be Nightjar, Hobby, Buzzard, Cuckoo, Woodlark and Lesser Spotted Woodpecker amoung many more. I do see both sides of the story but i'm still against them. Would be interesting to know who is funding the build of this Bird slicer.

John Walker · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:59 am

I continue to wonder why solar panels are not more widely used , i noticed a large farm shed with c 50 panels last week, are they less effiecient ? there certainly far less intrusive. regards John.

John Clarkson · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:20 am

Baffles me too John. At construction they're relatively cheap to install so why not on all new builds?

I was in Turkey last autumn and noticed that almost every little shack had its own solar panel and hot water tank on the roof, even very humble dwellings out in the desert

John

Dean Eades · **Posted:** Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:55 am

All new home should be fitted with solar panels... I also see a large farm shed somewhere with loads on =D>

John Walker · **Posted:** Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:45 am

If RSPB, National Trust and other conservation organisitions were to use and promote solar
the political backing and especially large funding monies may have some diverted into better support of solar power, and fewer wind turbines, especially those offshore which seem horrendously expensive and costly to mantain, i understand those out from Gib have 4 twin hull boats travelling from the Humber down and back each day and each boat burns around 450 litres of fuel per day
Hmmmm what carbon output in the manufacture of turbines, construction and maintainance plus all the undersea power cables and overland pylons and cabling to users, against the so called carbon savings ?? given that the life of each offshore turbine is calculated at 20 years.
When i look at the Louth industrial site and all the spare ground and large roof spaces i think of the hundreds of solar panels that could be erected and the energy being used locally. or are there other reasons such as large site rental payments and various grants, ( for wind turbines)
Perhaps i,m too cynical and see it in too simple a way ???? a good topic to debate and welcome any comments with a better insight and understanding of the issues. regards John.

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